[ Sat 09:09:34 ]  lovekraft:  I have arrived!

[ Sat 09:23:23 ]  lovekraft:  I have arrived! again!

[ Sat 09:24:57 ]  lovekraft:  I'm still here! Fµ¢k yahoo

[ Sat 09:26:50 ]  lovekraft:  "ello,'ello, 'ello

[ Sat 09:29:11 ]  lovekraft:  Are you there?

[ Sat 09:29:26 ]  ansil:  ok

[ Sat 09:29:42 ]  lovekraft:  It's aboot time! Where ya been?

[ Sat 09:29:44 ]  ansil:  went to the wrong place ha

[ Sat 09:29:57 ]  ansil:  i went to open discussion lol

[ Sat 09:30:14 ]  lovekraft:  sowassup?

[ Sat 09:30:20 ]  lovekraft:  sowassup?

[ Sat 09:30:46 ]  ansil:  sorry it took too long to load the yahoo thing i say chat because the damn email delay and the fact i know you dont' type as fast as i do but not many of us mortals do.

[ Sat 09:30:50 ]  ansil:  well nothig much here

[ Sat 09:30:51 ]  lovekraft:  There's an echo in here.

[ Sat 09:31:02 ]  ansil:  i am actually looking at some acoustic micheal hedges style gigs

[ Sat 09:31:08 ]  ansil:  ahh

[ Sat 09:31:12 ]  ansil:   i see well thats ok

[ Sat 09:31:19 ]  lovekraft:  Yes you mortals are an ineffective lot.

[ Sat 09:31:55 ]  ansil:  the bald headed bistro is looking for people every friday and saturday i saw a friend of mine perform there and another friend kept smakcing me in the arm and said you should be up there doing that

[ Sat 09:32:07 ]  ansil:  i was like i know stop hitting me you arse lol

[ Sat 09:32:10 ]  lovekraft:  Hedges? That's out of character.

[ Sat 09:32:29 ]  ansil:  haa.. i don't keep myself in the mortal classification lol

[ Sat 09:32:37 ]  ansil:  hmmmm well i wouldn't say so not really.

[ Sat 09:32:48 ]  ansil:  i know i listen to cradel of filth

[ Sat 09:33:03 ]  ansil:  play satch yngwie and vai [i still need practice though]

[ Sat 09:33:05 ]  lovekraft:  I figgered you for a Leo Kottke fan! :^/

[ Sat 09:33:24 ]  ansil:  and then i also do a mean acoustic slap tap funk and pop altered tuning thing

[ Sat 09:33:32 ]  ansil:  hmm let me look that up.

[ Sat 09:34:18 ]  lovekraft:  Old guy, acoustic guitar, really accomplished, but a snooze!

[ Sat 09:34:45 ]  ansil:  ahh ok i was looking. lol

[ Sat 09:34:55 ]  ansil:  i like more of a justin king style.

[ Sat 09:35:05 ]  ansil:  thats my bag. i am doign a few cool things too.

[ Sat 09:35:19 ]  lovekraft:  You know I'm old school - the last acoustic player that had my attention was Tuck Andress.

[ Sat 09:35:55 ]  ansil:  lol i am doing a two handed tapping with auto wah and delay vs of Eurythmics sweet dreams ah yes the mighty tuck is that cause he is awesome or because you live in alabama

[ Sat 09:36:01 ]  ansil:  lol jj

[ Sat 09:36:19 ]  ansil:  whoops sorrry if that was inapropriate.

[ Sat 09:36:50 ]  ansil:  I live in TN if that makes anyone feel better lol. its late and i have had zero sleep today they messed up my power at my shop

[ Sat 09:37:27 ]  lovekraft:  Watch those Bama jokes - at least Tuckmisn't Adrian legg (speaking of tapping).

[ Sat 09:38:28 ]  ansil:  i have a sleep disorder and for some reason even though i only nap for the most part or i crash at a friends. they say i can't nap in my shop now. they are convinced someone is sleeping there at night .. lol we dont' leave till 8am so i was like excuse me lol.. tru tru i like adrian hes an awesome player. weird though i dont' really tap out that many melodies outside of the harmonics. hmm how long would it take to send you a 5MB file. to let you hear

[ Sat 09:38:31 ]  lovekraft:  Ralph Bakshi? Fripp? Maybe some Torn, or Fred Frith?

[ Sat 09:38:58 ]  ansil:  yeah there ya go man frip is awesome one of the songs i did is based off his Violin Tuning.

[ Sat 09:39:10 ]  lovekraft:  Actually I'm currently in love with Hero and Heroine by The Strawbs.

[ Sat 09:39:41 ]  ansil:  cool look at this.. lolhttp://personals.yahoo.com/us/preview/preview?search=1&resulttype=1&kws=0&searchinternal=1&position=4&total=1000&adid=personals-1122497395-419956&affid=&searchview=1&searchsort=1&speed=2&advanced=&primary=&searchname=

[ Sat 09:40:19 ]  lovekraft:  5Mb, at 26.4K, with messenger downloading in the background - about a week.

[ Sat 09:40:35 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[ Sat 09:40:36 ]  ansil:  lol

[ Sat 09:41:10 ]  lovekraft:  Iplayed with tuning in 5ths - that cello sound was great, but blues licks were a bitch!

[ Sat 09:42:11 ]  ansil:  yeah the fifths .. CGDAEG WELL the g is not a fifth but comeon lol its hard not to pop the sucker that high

[ Sat 09:42:39 ]  lovekraft:  She sounds like an aerobics queen - 2much drama!

[ Sat 09:43:13 ]  ansil:  some of my favorite tunigs right now are. B#FD#FBE DADGAD ECEADD HAA yeah i sighned up for yahoo 360 cause a buddy is on it now i get these things in email lol

[ Sat 09:43:18 ]  lovekraft:  If you start with a low G, the top is only F#

[ Sat 09:43:32 ]  ansil:  you saw my yahoo thing right

[ Sat 09:44:23 ]  lovekraft:  What yahoo thing? The personal?

[ Sat 09:44:26 ]  ansil:  http://360.yahoo.com/profile-L83vucUwdbXpraafrMRJDbipCjw-

[ Sat 09:45:25 ]  lovekraft:  You have too mcuh time on your hands - don't (heart) blogs and such.

[ Sat 09:45:43 ]  ansil:  its a new yahoo thing. your Blog's lol whatever the more technology like this gets out there the more i want to put a drill bit in my skull

[ Sat 09:46:03 ]  lovekraft:  BTW, that links only half there

[ Sat 09:46:09 ]  ansil:  actually when you have a non working car and you walk everywhere yeah you don't get out as much.

[ Sat 09:47:13 ]  lovekraft:  And save the drill bits for the citizens.

[ Sat 09:47:32 ]  lovekraft:  My peeps think i've become an agoraphobic.

[ Sat 09:47:39 ]  ansil:  well sorry i got knocked up

[ Sat 09:47:40 ]  ansil:  off

[ Sat 09:47:57 ]  lovekraft:  Did you leave?

[ Sat 09:48:07 ]  ansil:  yeah sorry thats all that i was on my page so i guess it didint' work too well

[ Sat 09:48:20 ]  ansil:  nope it closed or something while i was tabbing pages

[ Sat 09:48:28 ]  ansil:  so yes i did but not on my own accord

[ Sat 09:49:00 ]  lovekraft:  Gotta watch it every second!

[ Sat 09:49:50 ]  ansil:  yep

[ Sat 09:49:54 ]  ansil:  so how ya been

[ Sat 09:49:57 ]  lovekraft:  BTw, Messngr just finished, so things might speed up

[ Sat 09:50:46 ]  lovekraft:  O f**k, now it wants information!

[ Sat 09:51:02 ]  ansil:  we found out the hard way that we have two electric meters and the one with the water on it well thats the one they cut off today cause our landlord left it on and we well we didnt' know. of course when i get home tongith it will be back on. can't leave nasty toilet ahhh. okk cool i am glad.. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol;

[ Sat 09:51:35 ]  ansil:  you have been pre approved for yahoo Messenger.. now enter your blood and urine sample through the usb port

[ Sat 09:53:06 ]  lovekraft:  OK, I'll mess with that later -you mentioned a compressor - LA Light or the one I drew out?

[ Sat 09:53:49 ]  lovekraft:  Or something completely different?

[ Sat 09:54:11 ]  ansil:  yeah we had a similar design so i have drawn up one more variant. just have to find it. well its basically the full wave

[ Sat 09:54:42 ]  lovekraft:  Full wave bridge or dual opamp full wave?

[ Sat 09:54:42 ]  ansil:  rectifier so its quite similar i actually modified my original thoughts so i could use the compresser section in the ducker pedal i am working on. so far its quitenice.

[ Sat 09:55:01 ]  ansil:  dual opamp full wave

[ Sat 09:55:15 ]  ansil:  i was going to use tlc2262's

[ Sat 09:55:21 ]  lovekraft:  You been holdin' out on me- where's my schematic?

[ Sat 09:56:21 ]  lovekraft:  BTW, I checked those schottkys and the Vf is about 250mV.

[ Sat 09:56:25 ]  ansil:  haa dude i burned you a disk that i was oging to upload to the net then i rem'ed you were on dial up man its a couple hundred megs of crap i burnt so i probally will have to just snail it to you. since i got paid i can do that now. oh yeah i thought my bp sent it alredy but nope.

[ Sat 09:56:51 ]  ansil:  cool i like that i am going to order a bunch from mouser do you want me to hook you up or do you have plenty.

[ Sat 09:57:00 ]  lovekraft:  That's normal - that's what partners atre for.

[ Sat 09:57:33 ]  ansil:  the schematic are ya talking about the one for the Comp or for the ducker

[ Sat 09:57:49 ]  lovekraft:  I haven't done anythig with the ones i've got yet -the layout for that opamp sidechain is kicking my ass!

[ Sat 09:58:06 ]  ansil:  i got a guy who is messing around with the progotype ducker he is loving it. i love the dog bollocks out of it. man plug in any effect and it will control it

[ Sat 09:58:55 ]  ansil:  yeah the side chain was my original prblem but ally got into the whole double sided board in my head mode u know. and then my buddy needed my monitor so he brought mine back tonight and i am online at my friends house or i would be emailin you right now.

[ Sat 09:59:02 ]  lovekraft:  Yeah, I played with the PAIA Ducker some years back - great for triggering the bass with a kick drum for massive punch!

[ Sat 10:00:04 ]  ansil:  well i got to thinking after i played the ducking delay on a rack unit that i like having the sound on sound layering of delay but sometimes i would rather have it drop out a bit while i am wailing.. so there it goes my wild ass imaination.

[ Sat 10:00:10 ]  lovekraft:  I guess i could lay it out with no problems, but I wnat it to fit in a 1590B box, you know?

[ Sat 10:00:52 ]  lovekraft:  You're not the only one obsessed with tiny boards.

[ Sat 10:00:56 ]  ansil:  oh yeah i good news too. for all the help you have done man i am working on a deal so i can hook ya up for al your help man. ahhh i see the zvex box as i call it. ha. yeah well smt might be the way to go.

[ Sat 10:01:16 ]  ansil:  hmm my comp board is only .86 by .96 before i changed it

[ Sat 10:01:33 ]  ansil:  lol.

[ Sat 10:01:46 ]  ansil:  it took like 5 hours to get it done that small

[ Sat 10:01:51 ]  lovekraft:  Whatever works -don't put yourself out -we semiliterates gotta stcik together.

[ Sat 10:02:28 ]  lovekraft:  This shit is what's ruined everybody;s spelling skills!

[ Sat 10:02:34 ]  ansil:  ha.. i feel ya. well i figured at least since i got someone banking this project too. that i couldat least hook ya up with some pedals

[ Sat 10:03:07 ]  ansil:  shit you are my friend man. but i still appreciate the help. it is good to have someone grounded in reality a little more than myself ha....

[ Sat 10:03:19 ]  lovekraft:  I never turn anything down - just don't put yourself out -you don't owe me anything.

[ Sat 10:03:42 ]  ansil:  yes you are correct cuase normally i woudl use larger words but looking like a major ass while ytping. hmmm i dont be needin no help

[ Sat 10:03:46 ]  lovekraft:  Reality-what a concept!

[ Sat 10:04:17 ]  ansil:  i appreciate it. i look at all mycontributions the same way but its nice when someone sends ya something..:D makes ya feel special

[ Sat 10:04:23 ]  lovekraft:  BTW, Lake Charles is getting the shit kicked otu fo it tonite

[ Sat 10:04:44 ]  ansil:  i figured it out. though i will never have a workign rig unless i get other peoples gear .. i mod myown too much.

[ Sat 10:04:55 ]  lovekraft:  I usaly spel gud!

[ Sat 10:05:06 ]  ansil:  ahhh. yeah u getting side affects from the big bad rita.

[ Sat 10:05:26 ]  ansil:  so do you know what i am going to use for my dirty rig.. are you ready to bitch slap me

[ Sat 10:06:06 ]  ansil:  Nano Head. with a booster. and custom load box into a Tube powerAmp. with a Teese wah

[ Sat 10:06:13 ]  lovekraft:  Have you noticed - the lag is about one reply between us - it's like the delay in broadcast headphones, really unnerving!

[ Sat 10:06:25 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaaaaaaa yeah..

[ Sat 10:06:39 ]  ansil:  you know what i have been dickin off with..

[ Sat 10:06:44 ]  ansil:  i never thought of this..

[ Sat 10:06:47 ]  lovekraft:  Herzog City - is yer real name Bachman?

[ Sat 10:07:08 ]  ansil:  my amp and zacks uses the little fender cahmp. haa bachman. transformer

[ Sat 10:07:42 ]  ansil:  what if you put another champ tranny backwards there.:D

[ Sat 10:07:46 ]  lovekraft:  Lessee -if we plug this speaker into this input...

[ Sat 10:07:59 ]  ansil:  brb need old pizza infusion with a glass of sweet tea..

[ Sat 10:08:22 ]  lovekraft:  I'm usnig a stock Hartke 3500, and a 4-10 cab.

[ Sat 10:09:16 ]  lovekraft:  Got some new jensen sopeakers, abd it sounds very geezer Butler.

[ Sat 10:09:40 ]  ansil:  cool man i didn't know you played bass .. why you throwin your life away like that lol.. jj i

[ Sat 10:09:53 ]  lovekraft:  This is no time to fix a sandwich, fool! Get back here!

[ Sat 10:09:58 ]  ansil:  geezer is the man.. so what do you think about the champ transformer idea. not bad lol

[ Sat 10:10:10 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaaa

[ Sat 10:10:23 ]  ansil:  we had pizza 4 suipper

[ Sat 10:10:36 ]  lovekraft:  Bass players ae just like guitar players, only stropnger and less insecure!

[ Sat 10:10:53 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol thast funny...

[ Sat 10:11:08 ]  ansil:  but hammond players have the biggest ORGAN on the stage.

[ Sat 10:11:23 ]  lovekraft:  Besides, my guitar rig is a SnasAmp PSA1

[ Sat 10:11:34 ]  ansil:  its harder to play bass than guitar in my opinion. well i mean play it well

[ Sat 10:12:14 ]  ansil:  my guitar rig is a behringer Vampire with an ibanez. 270dx duncan fender dimarzio

[ Sat 10:12:49 ]  lovekraft:  Well, I'm not Sheehan, but I'm damn sure better than Flea and Sting

[ Sat 10:13:20 ]  lovekraft:  Speaking of organs on stage.

[ Sat 10:13:59 ]  lovekraft:  Hey Gordon, how about some tantric shutthe fuckup on your next album,?

[ Sat 10:13:59 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaa organs li ove it.

[ Sat 10:14:26 ]  lovekraft:  Sting pisses me off almost as much as Bono.

[ Sat 10:14:30 ]  ansil:  dude sheenin is awesome but i mean come on hes' like vai on bass. trantric. lol

[ Sat 10:14:46 ]  ansil:  how about a nice glasss of shut the fuck up.

[ Sat 10:14:53 ]  ansil:  ha..

[ Sat 10:15:09 ]  lovekraft:  Sheehan sits on the left hand of the Atman

[ Sat 10:15:14 ]  ansil:  yeah i know sting doesnt' do it for me. i did like the vocalist on desert rose thought the control man.

[ Sat 10:15:26 ]  ansil:  atman???

[ Sat 10:15:50 ]  ansil:  Nmind i got it.

[ Sat 10:15:54 ]  lovekraft:  The Atman -the godhead in Vedic mythology.

[ Sat 10:16:15 ]  lovekraft:  Too slow! sorry

[ Sat 10:16:27 ]  ansil:  yep i had to look it up.,

[ Sat 10:16:52 ]  lovekraft:  besides, Vai on bass isn't a bad thing

[ Sat 10:16:56 ]  ansil:  yeah the delay is terrible its so bad on this end and well i type so fast i ent and refilled the tea and got a second and last piece of pizza slut pizza

[ Sat 10:17:17 ]  ansil:  dude vai on anything isn't bad as long as it isn't your butt

[ Sat 10:17:21 ]  ansil:  lol literly

[ Sat 10:17:44 ]  lovekraft:  Wehave PapaJohn's here so we don't have to resort to Pigza Yurt.

[ Sat 10:17:46 ]  ansil:  you know any vai heads down there that would want an autographed neck. by vai of course lol

[ Sat 10:18:23 ]  lovekraft:  No - I eschew fans of any kind -they're fuzzy thinking drives me mad!

[ Sat 10:18:33 ]  ansil:  aaaaaaaaaaa man i would havkille dfor Pj's tonight i did't think but up here in Cleveland the Pj's is nasty most of the time to greasy reminds me of dominoes but sometimes they get it right.

[ Sat 10:19:17 ]  lovekraft:  Domina's Pizza _you will enjoy it, slave!

[ Sat 10:19:19 ]  ansil:  ahh well i thought i would ask you know the whole ebay crap i screwd over on.. anyway i have to part with it. my baby. i bought the neck for 85usd and had my buddy take it to g3..

[ Sat 10:19:43 ]  ansil:  i was going to put it on the ibanez i have cause my neck ain't lookin so sweet.

[ Sat 10:19:53 ]  ansil:  did you see the thread where i threw perry under the bus. lol

[ Sat 10:20:11 ]  ansil:  lol domino's hhaaaaaa yes thank you sir may i have another

[ Sat 10:20:25 ]  lovekraft:  I've had to sell off so much cool stuff in the las 3 yrs, it's not funny.

[ Sat 10:20:41 ]  ansil:  he was cool about it i was like.. hey perry you dont' reply to emails so i take it you dont' need an amp.. lol

[ Sat 10:21:01 ]  ansil:  yeah hows the house re finanicin goin for ya

[ Sat 10:21:23 ]  lovekraft:  BTW, I got the Hitchhiker's Guide DVD today - i'm going to enjoy this, even if it sucks!

[ Sat 10:22:19 ]  lovekraft:  No problem - lowred payments and payed off some other bills - they appraised the house sight unseen for about twice what I think it's worth, so we actually gained equity!

[ Sat 10:22:31 ]  ansil:  cool thats a great movie i saw part of it on canadian satelite. its ilegal to hacvk but they won't come get you and our goverment doesn't care what we do to their satelite

[ Sat 10:23:09 ]  lovekraft:  Can you get terence abd Phillip?

[ Sat 10:23:30 ]  ansil:  cool congrats i am goign to be building soon i hope. i got to call in all my favors 1/2 acre for 2800 wiith concrete slab and all the fixin's hooked up ready to build or drop trailer

[ Sat 10:24:10 ]  ansil:  haaaa do they really have a show called that. i was just wondering i mean i see south park in four languages there .. wel not anymore since the bar and grill closed.

[ Sat 10:24:21 ]  ansil:  Uncle Phucker lol

[ Sat 10:24:33 ]  lovekraft:  Damn, that's cheap, is it in a rural area?

[ Sat 10:25:22 ]  ansil:  its 20 minutes from downtown cleveland. so not real bad. an acre uncleared is around 3100 up here. but thats what it says on line

[ Sat 10:25:39 ]  lovekraft:  Or is it next to a toxic waste Superfund suite?

[ Sat 10:25:56 ]  lovekraft:  That'd be my luck.

[ Sat 10:26:02 ]  ansil:  lol.. no its slightly rural.. i mean not way out in the stix but i want to be some what away from people.

[ Sat 10:26:31 ]  ansil:  i found a guy above nashville who i had talked with about doing my wood working on my guitar and i just have to find his email again. whoops knoxville not nashvile

[ Sat 10:26:48 ]  lovekraft:  That's why my peeps think I'm becoming agoraphobic - if I don't have to go anywhere, i don't!

[ Sat 10:27:33 ]  lovekraft:  It's nice, being at least 15 minutes from any where - no unexpected guests.

[ Sat 10:27:43 ]  ansil:  nope its got neighbours close to it but not too bad.. i designed a 1100 sq foot house or so. 10*10 bathroom 15*20 bedroom and 19*40 living area for cooking shooting pool and watching tv. thats the general measurements.

[ Sat 10:28:06 ]  ansil:  i see what you mean on the agoraphobic. same here i dont' get out that much. mysschedule is usually.

[ Sat 10:28:46 ]  ansil:  tues. jam with people and poker night and then sunday and thursday church and life group meetings.

[ Sat 10:29:03 ]  ansil:  other than that its work work work. and occasional sleep.

[ Sat 10:29:04 ]  lovekraft:  Do you get that slightly resentful, "so, where ya been?" static? I just smile!

[ Sat 10:29:52 ]  ansil:  yeah i am 35 miles right now from my closest relative haa not one of them has been to visiit me at all. yep my dad is pissed i didnt' wish him a happy fathers day.

[ Sat 10:30:22 ]  ansil:  but then again his wife said "you didn't wish him one either. or a happy brithday so drop it lol" she is cool

[ Sat 10:30:32 ]  lovekraft:  About a year after ai stopped working on mowers, i got a call from a guy i had worked with who'd heard that i had died, and was checking to see if it was true -ttoooo funny!!

[ Sat 10:30:53 ]  ansil:  right now i have been active in the church.. so i OH my GOD thats FUnny.. hey bill did you die ..

[ Sat 10:31:33 ]  ansil:  i am in the process of trying to aquire a junked vehicle to convert it to electric

[ Sat 10:31:37 ]  lovekraft:  Yeah_ I said, "Hello...", and there qwas this long pause...

[ Sat 10:31:50 ]  ansil:   i have been following them for a while and its gotten real cheap recently.

[ Sat 10:31:55 ]  ansil:  LOL

[ Sat 10:32:21 ]  lovekraft:  Why don't you just convert your present car to running?

[ Sat 10:32:33 ]  ansil:  ahh well see i am not real how you say

[ Sat 10:32:40 ]  ansil:  mechanically inclined.. lol

[ Sat 10:32:57 ]  ansil:  but if its electrical i can arc it over and kill something.

[ Sat 10:33:20 ]  lovekraft:  Dude I don't work on cars either -they've got big heavy pieces, and I get dirty - no thanks!!

[ Sat 10:33:50 ]  ansil:  my depth and stuff is really messed up. thats why i need someone to make me a drill template.. i got some calipers and managed to screw it up. i don't make it pretty. i just make it kick arse and scream.. yep my carr is over 6000lbs and its a 1990

[ Sat 10:34:09 ]  ansil:  My tube power amp for the car worked out nice though

[ Sat 10:35:35 ]  lovekraft:  Just put apice of tape on the drill bit.

[ Sat 10:36:43 ]  lovekraft:  I drive a met blue and greu primer 1990 Dodge Caravan with 368000 miles on it - I'm going for 500,00!

[ Sat 10:37:18 ]  lovekraft:  Daimler Chrysler probably hatesme!

[ Sat 10:37:55 ]  ansil:  oh yeah i know that one.. but it seems i always screw something up.. here ya go. i used the calipers and all the fun stuff and pre marked my holes with a punch. guess what. happened. my drill base tilted for some reason even thought its as tight as it will go. lol............ go for the 500000 man.. i will probally get a rice burner lol. did you seee the link to small bear i sent you about the pre painted boxes.

[ Sat 10:39:09 ]  ansil:  i am thinking of getting just one to send off to music toyz. since my guy won't do any less than 20 at a time. per batch. and this is myown private venture seperate from my bpartner i want to just get it hooked up quickly but beautifully. the frankstein is nice kind of cartoonish though.. his eyes are fulltone style knobs

[ Sat 10:40:06 ]  lovekraft:  Yeah - I'm thinking about etching some boxes and doing a Renaissance kind of finish with enamels in the depressions, if the heat doesn't ditort the boxes too bad (or set them ablaze - what's the ignition temperature of high silicon aluminum, anyway?

[ Sat 10:40:57 ]  ansil:  hmm not sure but the metling point of aluminum is around 660 or so. i looked it up for the diy foundry once.

[ Sat 10:41:05 ]  ansil:  660f that is.

[ Sat 10:41:16 ]  lovekraft:  When I'm rich and famous, i'm going to anodize the boxes!

[ Sat 10:42:21 ]  ansil:  there ya go.. you ever think of casting your own boxes. i have been toying with it. i will doit more in winter since it will be cold

[ Sat 10:42:22 ]  lovekraft:  You know what I just realized - if anybody reads the transcripts of this, they're going to have a laugh or two!

[ Sat 10:42:42 ]  ansil:  well i am not worried about it. lol let them laugh..

[ Sat 10:43:14 ]  lovekraft:  I don't cast metals - it's worse for our lungs than painting!

[ Sat 10:43:54 ]  ansil:  yeah true.. just thought it might be interesting. i thought i might cast me a water pump for my car. lol

[ Sat 10:44:33 ]  lovekraft:  I had a friend who was a jeweler ( a real one, not a diamond retailer), and the fumes were wretched! No Thanks!

[ Sat 10:44:38 ]  ansil:  and there is always cold casting. did you konw the electric penguin;s pedals are fully run over with his 6000lb buick to test the strength of the box and components.

[ Sat 10:44:53 ]  ansil:  lol tru true.

[ Sat 10:45:11 ]  lovekraft:  Is that a NOS Buick?

[ Sat 10:45:17 ]  ansil:  i ran over my Penuin love 18 times and it didn't break the switch. it just siwtched it on and off.. lol

[ Sat 10:45:38 ]  lovekraft:  Do you have a true bypass cooling system in it?

[ Sat 10:46:01 ]  ansil:  well it was based on the 60-70's buick wagons. but it was a 1990 that has all the options. lol................ nope it is done with mosfets lol

[ Sat 10:46:20 ]  ansil:  i emailed z to see if i could get a cheaper price on some of his tubes. lol

[ Sat 10:46:50 ]  ansil:  so what do you think about putting two dc jacks in there and using them to daisy chain to other pedals.

[ Sat 10:47:21 ]  ansil:  i thought it was interesting idea. my booster doesn't use any power so i thought hey why not use it to give some extra life to my delay lol.

[ Sat 10:47:49 ]  lovekraft:  I asked him on the forum if there was anything special about those submini tubes, and he said "no, you shoudl probably just sue regular 112A*7s" - I'msure he was being sarcastic, but I took him at his word!

[ Sat 10:48:25 ]  ansil:  have you seen the GODLYKE power supplys they are tiny and say 1.75A at 9v regulated. i was like what.. its got to be some sort of current amplifier.

[ Sat 10:48:30 ]  lovekraft:  Don't like common power systems - ground loops suck!

[ Sat 10:48:51 ]  ansil:  I figured since he says he weeded out the bad ones. it was better than the ones i bought off ebay.

[ Sat 10:49:02 ]  ansil:  2 out of 3 wouldn't light.

[ Sat 10:49:18 ]  lovekraft:  Well, after all if you're godlyke, the l;aws of physics don't apply!

[ Sat 10:49:30 ]  ansil:  true true. but this was a way to use batt's and chain them too..

[ Sat 10:49:45 ]  ansil:  lol what do you think it really puts out.

[ Sat 10:49:52 ]  lovekraft:  Chain batteries?

[ Sat 10:50:04 ]  ansil:  it was on keiths pedal board and i wondered why he had so many little wall warts. there.

[ Sat 10:50:28 ]  ansil:  yeah i have a little setup so you can tap off the batt or have it setup to switch off the batt.

[ Sat 10:50:35 ]  ansil:  dip switch in there.

[ Sat 10:51:09 ]  lovekraft:  I saw a power amp in a car audio shop that was 1000 watts, and ran from a regular alternator - i reckon it'll only put out 1KW if the car gets struck by lightning!

[ Sat 10:51:30 ]  ansil:  plus i found a really neat dc jack too. cheap and works like a charm. i offer two types of jack normal disconnect the battery kind. and I USE powersupplys only.

[ Sat 10:51:33 ]  ansil:  lol

[ Sat 10:51:45 ]  ansil:  ILS wattage

[ Sat 10:52:01 ]  ansil:  what did you say the actuall car wattage breaks down too.

[ Sat 10:52:10 ]  ansil:  like a 5th of it or something.

[ Sat 10:52:44 ]  lovekraft:  That's one thing I like about not using opamps whenever possible - with discrete components, you can keep current consumption way down, and batteries last a long time!

[ Sat 10:54:01 ]  ansil:  true true man i know what you mean.. but since i don't do a delay. its nice to say use the boosters bat to help out say a dd5 or so..

[ Sat 10:54:17 ]  ansil:  well i didn't do delay i do now.. lol it will be out by christmas if i am lucky

[ Sat 10:54:34 ]  ansil:  So far the Electric penguin line up is like this.

[ Sat 10:55:14 ]  lovekraft:  12 volts - even with a tripler, that's only 35 volts or so. Into a 4 ohm load, that limits you to about 300 watt peaks, and that's with perfect efficiency.

[ Sat 10:55:45 ]  lovekraft:  So, the lineup?

[ Sat 10:55:52 ]  ansil:  Frank N stein. distortion/sustain Penguin love OD/Boost Cowbox Boost PIG acoustic preamp amp simp and Swine Saturation box

[ Sat 10:56:23 ]  ansil:  the PIG is nice. its noisy but i am using an audio transformer un shielde right now.

[ Sat 10:56:48 ]  lovekraft:  What, no obnoxious parametric filter masquerading as a wah pedal?

[ Sat 10:57:23 ]  ansil:  A single preamp stage set up into a push pull micro tranny. all transistors. and dumps into an eq acutally the wah's i am buying from Carvin and modding lol...........

[ Sat 10:58:07 ]  lovekraft:  Tell me about yer acustic pre.

[ Sat 10:58:11 ]  ansil:  i can get my wah's for 55usd including shipping to me. at last check. spend 3 usd modding. and adding logo's and there ya go

[ Sat 10:59:00 ]  ansil:  Transistor Gain stage. similar to a standard boost that i use. thinking of going mosfet and oding the tube emulating thing.

[ Sat 10:59:11 ]  lovekraft:  Are ya using those submini telecom xformers from Mouser? they're not bad, especially for guitar.

[ Sat 10:59:47 ]  lovekraft:  Guaranteed flat to about 100Hz, IIRC.

[ Sat 10:59:49 ]  ansil:  push pull power secton. like Joe davissons practice amp for headphones. i belive thats the ones. the same ones as the rat shack spec's but momouser makes them and they are made better.

[ Sat 11:00:15 ]  ansil:  output into eq into buffer into the xlr and 1/4 inch outs.

[ Sat 11:00:21 ]  ansil:  baxandall eq btw.

[ Sat 11:01:00 ]  lovekraft:  I use one of the micros for a varitone inductor (just like Torres ).

[ Sat 11:01:13 ]  ansil:  the nice thing about it. is it was designed more for the guitar pre that has no onboard preamp. but i put a push pull gain pot on it to let it be used with all of them..

[ Sat 11:01:27 ]  ansil:  yep. i did that on my old gibson m3

[ Sat 11:02:13 ]  lovekraft:  Is there anthing in your bag of tricks that doesn'tclip?:^}

[ Sat 11:02:14 ]  ansil:  i was thinking it woudl be nice to have a little drive into a cranked up amp sound oh also the pedal has a little speaker in there before the eq' right after the transformer

[ Sat 11:02:25 ]  ansil:  lol just the delay. lol

[ Sat 11:02:50 ]  lovekraft:  I'll bet it grind at high gain, too!

[ Sat 11:03:00 ]  ansil:  what can i say you get awesome tones from a nice little drive section. i am a gain man. lol

[ Sat 11:03:17 ]  lovekraft:  Digital? What chip?

[ Sat 11:03:36 ]  ansil:  i am however looking into winding custom microphones i got some technical details on it online. as well as making micro condenser mic's for acoustics

[ Sat 11:03:40 ]  lovekraft:  The dealy -I know what the rest of it is.

[ Sat 11:03:46 ]  ansil:  pt2399

[ Sat 11:04:21 ]  lovekraft:  Where are you getting them (ot specifically -you never know who's listening)?

[ Sat 11:04:40 ]  ansil:  ha.. true.. true. theres also the pitch genrator out of the acid rain. its digital well both really a 555 and the tremolo doens't well actually yes it can so never mind

[ Sat 11:05:33 ]  lovekraft:  Hnag on -gotta go throttle a dog! BRB

[ Sat 11:05:37 ]  ansil:  belive it or not i actually emailed the company and then submitted in writing and got one in the mail .. told them i wanted to sample it. took for ever though. but the rest of the time i was goign to order from Small bear

[ Sat 11:05:47 ]  ansil:  k

[ Sat 11:07:37 ]  lovekraft:  Sorry! Jen just left for a dog show, so it's just me and the fuzzies, and they don't know how to act when momma's not here!

[ Sat 11:07:59 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaaaa no problem

[ Sat 11:08:28 ]  lovekraft:  What's the max delay on that chip?

[ Sat 11:08:42 ]  ansil:  i think i will have to go ahead and add a compander. i was looking at the pt-80 for about a month or so and decided to play with it. but i didnt' have the chips other than the delya chips.

[ Sat 11:08:58 ]  ansil:  i got around 800ms or so after that it was a little weird

[ Sat 11:09:16 ]  ansil:  it says you can use up to a 50k pot for delay.

[ Sat 11:09:30 ]  lovekraft:  I'd go compander , and maybe pre-de-emphasis filters too.

[ Sat 11:09:47 ]  ansil:  at 27k its around 350 ms or better not too shabby sounding. i just put in some Hpf there to keep my bass from farting out the delay line.

[ Sat 11:10:14 ]  lovekraft:  You know, boost highs goig in pre compression, and cut post expansio on the way otu.

[ Sat 11:10:57 ]  ansil:  yep thats what i was thinking.

[ Sat 11:11:04 ]  lovekraft:  Youi don;'t need anything below 250hz or so in a delay - bass doesn't really echo, even in real life!

[ Sat 11:11:50 ]  ansil:  thats very true. i was thinking around 220hz would be where i would cut it so i was close

[ Sat 11:12:10 ]  ansil:  http://www.orchard1.com.tw/ics/pdfile/audio/2399s.pdf

[ Sat 11:13:00 ]  lovekraft:  I'm seriously considering hard wiring -3dB cutoffs at 60hz and 6kHz into every guitar effect i make.

[ Sat 11:13:17 ]  lovekraft:  Great_ I'll grab it!

[ Sat 11:13:43 ]  ansil:  i dont' blame you it would make it easier.. alot easier.

[ Sat 11:14:23 ]  ansil:  perhaps a pedal that has multiple filters of just that. and basically have a patch bay with multiple filters. a new pedal man i like it.

[ Sat 11:14:24 ]  ansil:  lol

[ Sat 11:14:56 ]  lovekraft:  You remember the Sisters of mercy? They asked the singer how they got his baritone voice to sound like that, and he said well ,there really isn't anything interesting an the vocals below 2K or so!lol

[ Sat 11:15:51 ]  ansil:  haaaaaa thats true man i had to educate my studio guy here

[ Sat 11:16:49 ]  lovekraft:  Most good vintage fuzz/distro/overdrive boxes, don't have anynrsponse below about 250Hz, do they?

[ Sat 11:16:51 ]  ansil:  he didnt' understand that the fundemental fretted note is around 1.4khz at 24th fret on a a=440hz guitar setup.. add in 1 oct overtones and you get 3khz aprox. add in a second ocatve of overtones and you get hmm magic 6khz

[ Sat 11:17:34 ]  lovekraft:  And 6K is about where guitar speakers crap out!

[ Sat 11:18:16 ]  ansil:  nope.. hardly any.. well most of the pedals. not taking into account the chips or tranny's have a single pole filter in them that setts the lows around 250 suck out 500hz and oh shit i forgot to tell you somthing remind me to tell ya about eq's in a sec

[ Sat 11:18:29 ]  ansil:  yep 6k on a guitar speaker man F that.

[ Sat 11:18:38 ]  lovekraft:  Besides, live playing is so much easier if you don't have all that bandwidth interfering!

[ Sat 11:19:04 ]  ansil:  Keith put a 11k speaker in his amp. thats what it says 10k or 11k and i was like comeon dude the origianl fender delux speaker didnt' soudn like that.

[ Sat 11:19:15 ]  ansil:  yep yep its all about the bandwidth man.

[ Sat 11:19:44 ]  lovekraft:  EQ's-what is it? ( You're supposed to sya. "It's a box with a bunch of slide pots on the front -but that's not important now..."

[ Sat 11:20:29 ]  ansil:  you know whats messed up.. besides keith using all these damn supposed NOS tubes in the amp i built him and him complaiing it doesnt' soudn like it did when i left.. and the damn tube is microphonic.

[ Sat 11:21:09 ]  ansil:  all the knew tubes i got him all JJ tesla btw have nver made any bad sounds. but he gets these damn 40 yearold 12ay7's that are microphonic. ok sorry anyway eq's

[ Sat 11:21:18 ]  lovekraft:  NOS is a crap shoot - I don;t understand why any working musician would rely on those things.

[ Sat 11:21:19 ]  ansil:  now i wrote a paper on this.

[ Sat 11:21:43 ]  lovekraft:  Amongraph, Homes?

[ Sat 11:21:55 ]  ansil:  what off the top of your head what would you say the fundemental freq on a graphic eq are

[ Sat 11:22:29 ]  ansil:  if you look at most of them almost all of them aree in are you ready the b- c# range.

[ Sat 11:22:33 ]  ansil:  why the hell is that.

[ Sat 11:22:42 ]  lovekraft:  Start at about 63Hz for a 2/3 octave, 40 for a 1/3 octabve

[ Sat 11:23:19 ]  ansil:  220a 440a 880a1760a3520a110a55a

[ Sat 11:24:07 ]  lovekraft:  Because they're in either 2/3 octave or 1/3 octave, so they repeat - besides, the Q is low enough that the don't have mcuh of a resonant peak -that's what paranetrics are for.

[ Sat 11:24:25 ]  ansil:  82aprox for e so 164 328 all of these are not reall popular on eq's you notice that. most of the eq freq' range is all multiple ocatves around the flat b sharp c

[ Sat 11:24:53 ]  ansil:  well i was wondering i posted that a whlie back and people were like woaaaaaaaa thats deep

[ Sat 11:24:54 ]  lovekraft:  So, you gonna design an EQ in Dropped D?

[ Sat 11:25:09 ]  ansil:  nope. i have an awesome eq

[ Sat 11:25:31 ]  ansil:  well it isnt' an eq really.. did you ever read my phase thing i did

[ Sat 11:26:00 ]  lovekraft:  Talk is cheap - I think any good guitar EQ, should have a 9db or better notch at 400hz built in.

[ Sat 11:26:06 ]  ansil:  where you take the guitar and split it in the middle and put the upper order freq out of phase with the lower.

[ Sat 11:26:33 ]  ansil:  without a doubt.. man.. have you seen the fender front man schematic.

[ Sat 11:26:41 ]  lovekraft:  Yes, I vaguely remember your feverish ramblings on that subject.

[ Sat 11:26:52 ]  ansil:  thats what they have in one of the gain stages right before the main clipping

[ Sat 11:26:54 ]  ansil:  lol

[ Sat 11:27:08 ]  ansil:  i take it you were un impresssed ;)

[ Sat 11:27:34 ]  ansil:  I never said the theory was sound but it sounds good and i sold a dozen or so

[ Sat 11:28:10 ]  ansil:  http://personals.yahoo.com/us/preview/view?index=4&id=personals-1095270465-188105&done=http%3A%2F%2Fpersonals.yahoo.com%2Fus%2Fpersonals-1095270465-188105%3Fview%3D1%26adid%3Dpersonals-1095270465-188105&mode=view hmm nice

[ Sat 11:28:14 ]  lovekraft:  Actually, boost 400 hz pre-clipping, and roll off gradually thru the gainstages, works well, too.

[ Sat 11:28:52 ]  lovekraft:  No, Iwasn;t unimpressed -I just never heard it, so I really can't pass judgement.

[ Sat 11:29:21 ]  ansil:  back again dope

[ Sat 11:29:32 ]  ansil:  oh i was jj no reall worries man.

[ Sat 11:29:44 ]  lovekraft:  Damn_you left again, and I didn't even see it!

[ Sat 11:30:08 ]  lovekraft:  What does it sound like?

[ Sat 11:30:27 ]  ansil:  it sounds interesting but it isnt' one of thsoe night and day effects its like the doublers turn it on turn it off and you might miss it like i did lol but play aobut 15 minutes with it on and then cut it off and go damn where did my sound go.

[ Sat 11:31:06 ]  lovekraft:  Like a BBE

[ Sat 11:31:16 ]  ansil:  basically to my ears and the girl i sold the first one too. it balances the guitar before it goes to the amp. or the peal board. so since the high freq are not a loud as the others because of string mass

[ Sat 11:31:26 ]  ansil:  yeah actually like a poor mans bbe

[ Sat 11:31:45 ]  lovekraft:  BTW, you know that the maximizer is basically a static phase shifter, right?

[ Sat 11:32:26 ]  ansil:  it lets you blend the highs and lows but they are out of phase so you can get a little more bite from the top end without being shrill. yeah what was it someone told me slight phase delay so the sound hits your ears better to make it sound fuller

[ Sat 11:32:42 ]  lovekraft:  Phase shift spreads the energy out over time, so the peaks aren't as high - they used to do it on broadcast material back in the dark ages.

[ Sat 11:33:12 ]  ansil:  not familair with the term static phase shifter. ahh ok sound killer you kon wyou can buy that chip for about 6 usd

[ Sat 11:33:14 ]  lovekraft:  Poor man's compression, without pumping or LF diostortion.

[ Sat 11:33:23 ]  ansil:  i got a free one lol..

[ Sat 11:34:20 ]  ansil:  coolness. i never got to play one that i was aware of but i think someone had one hooked up to my buddies rig. a year or two ago. when i sold my bogner clone.

[ Sat 11:34:45 ]  lovekraft:  Just take a Phase 90, and replace the FEts with fixed resistors - static phase shift, it's almost completely inaudible, but it lowers the overall peak value of the output signal

[ Sat 11:34:53 ]  ansil:  i rem mark hammer talking about it and postin some links i got them in email some where. when yahoo went too a 1 gig account i was like shit i will never find anything again.

[ Sat 11:35:03 ]  ansil:  ahhhhhhhhh ok..

[ Sat 11:36:35 ]  lovekraft:  If you think of comple signals as nested sine waves, it's easy to understand - normall, they all line up, so the peak simultaneously, but fi you phase shift them they all peak at slightly different times -see?

[ Sat 11:36:51 ]  ansil:  so would that be similar to having say splitting the freq of a guitar in 1/4ths and putting each stage 90 degrees' out of phase with each other one. i thought about doign something like that to keep an acoustic from feeding back as much.

[ Sat 11:37:30 ]  ansil:  Yeah man thats cool i never thought of it like that. i never got much into the phase thing. it was either in or out for me. lol.. still got a long way to learn lol

[ Sat 11:37:46 ]  lovekraft:  Might work - phase shift is time domain, and frequency shift is how hose feedback killers work.

[ Sat 11:38:54 ]  lovekraft:  God, my typing is getting worse!

[ Sat 11:39:32 ]  lovekraft:  That chubby girl is cute-think she'd like to be my muse?

[ Sat 11:39:42 ]  ansil:  cool let me pick your brain for a second. i think it was you and i that was talking about a certain high voltage switching system. what do you think about using a irf740 osc to say40k or so. to run a diode ladder. what formula is it you are the formula master after all. so i can get my amperage right.. i was goign to supply say 15+dc2A or better.

[ Sat 11:39:53 ]  ansil:  haaaaa never know.. lol

[ Sat 11:40:32 ]  lovekraft:  I'll bet i could keep her attention -at least until the restraining order was filed!

[ Sat 11:41:06 ]  ansil:  haaaaaaaaa lol thats what i am talking about.. No talking means no Jail time man..

[ Sat 11:41:39 ]  lovekraft:  No, I don't grok voltage multipliers - i mean, I see how they work, but i can't get the math rgiht

[ Sat 11:42:23 ]  ansil:  ahh ok well i couldnt' remember Tone God and i were talking once about the cool ness of a high voltage deal. and he had the oportunity

[ Sat 11:42:49 ]  lovekraft:  Damn, it's daylight! Even i don't stay up this late!

[ Sat 11:43:01 ]  ansil:  to see inside one and see how it was all crammed in there. I was trying to do somthing in a pedal form for one of my pedals. to still get the HV but fit it al in a BB box

[ Sat 11:43:19 ]  ansil:  lol sorrry did ikeep you up too much. lol its almost 8am here

[ Sat 11:43:30 ]  lovekraft:  How much voltage do you need?

[ Sat 11:43:52 ]  ansil:  i built a tube fuzz but that damn little ehx tranny isnt' my bag.. i was going for about 200v or so.

[ Sat 11:44:06 ]  lovekraft:  No worries _ I just have to shut the bilnds so i don't burst into flames!

[ Sat 11:44:37 ]  ansil:  i was thinking of going with the mil tubes for my tube fuzz it sounds really cool............. haaaa flames i love it.. i have UV shields on the windows so i can walk in shaded daylight.

[ Sat 11:45:05 ]  lovekraft:  That EH xformer is ideal for that -you're just gonna have to break down and learn to use it.

[ Sat 11:45:35 ]  ansil:  i dont' want to have to do the whole replace the tube all the time thing.. i mean a 12ax7 is goign to last along time but its larger than i want.

[ Sat 11:46:41 ]  ansil:  Hmm well i have all the spec sheets for it and i have a half dozen of them you want one.. lol. i couldnt' get a reliable voltage out of it. i got nearly 400V out of it. from the way it says to be wired up. but the tube even after the heaters heated up pulled so much current it ate the voltage shit up

[ Sat 11:47:02 ]  lovekraft:  Have you looked at those 12 V tubes that Stephen Lajeune was playing with? I don't remember ever replacing a tube in my Dad's old Hudon's radio.

[ Sat 11:47:29 ]  ansil:  i talked to everyone in the thread on line about the ehx transformer. hmm now thats andiea the 12v tubes.. i just wanted something i was a little more familiar with. lol

[ Sat 11:47:32 ]  lovekraft:  Sorry that's Hudson, asin Hudson Jet.

[ Sat 11:48:22 ]  lovekraft:  That xformer is great- do you have the GGG layout forit?

[ Sat 11:49:20 ]  ansil:  i mean from what i gatheredd ffrom you and everyone else. the thing i think so let me check. but i mean basically i am connecting up the parrallel sides to the 12ac right.. mayve i didnt' say that right.

[ Sat 11:50:59 ]  ansil:  do you think i got duds' i mean we both talked about my crazy transformer syou truned me onto..

[ Sat 11:51:16 ]  lovekraft:  basically - just go to GGG and downlaod the layout.

[ Sat 11:51:22 ]  ansil:  what did you say the votlage of a 190-0-190 should be rectified.

[ Sat 11:51:30 ]  ansil:  yeah i am looking for the layout right now

[ Sat 11:52:08 ]  ansil:  got it

[ Sat 11:52:40 ]  lovekraft:  BAout 268 volts, but you'll be luky to get 250m under a load.

[ Sat 11:53:07 ]  ansil:  out of the ehx or the hammond tranny.

[ Sat 11:53:56 ]  lovekraft:  Try this link http://generalguitargadgets.com/pdf/ggg_eh_transformer.pdf

[ Sat 11:54:11 ]  ansil:  cause yeah thats what i got now.. is around 248-260 but i was geting 480 or so unloaded and 330+ or so under full operation. on every one of the first generation amps. but the new batch came in and i got bupkisss

[ Sat 11:54:27 ]  ansil:  yeah thats what i got and thats what the layout says from ehx and thats what i did.

[ Sat 11:54:53 ]  lovekraft:  You must have run the secondaries in series with 12 volts.

[ Sat 11:55:23 ]  lovekraft:  Or something - you weren't on DC volts were you?

[ Sat 11:55:34 ]  ansil:  50v dc from that mug under load.. a 1.2A 12vac powersupply i did everything

[ Sat 11:55:50 ]  ansil:  you can do every combo of wiring. nope

[ Sat 11:56:27 ]  lovekraft:  Which xformer gave you problems?

[ Sat 11:56:44 ]  ansil:  ac transforer to ehx and ac readout on the meter. then into a bridge 1n4007 rectifier. into all differnt cap values. from 8uf to 400uf..

[ Sat 11:57:30 ]  ansil:  you mean between the ehx and the hammond or the ehx and the supply transformer.. the supply never dropped below 13v.

[ Sat 11:58:06 ]  ansil:  i also used a different filament transformer so all the current was there for the ehx transformer.

[ Sat 11:58:20 ]  lovekraft:  Does the Hammond work for you?

[ Sat 11:58:26 ]  ansil:  it says what 6ma at 330v or so. for the ehx transformer

[ Sat 11:59:35 ]  ansil:  not really enough to make a mini amp but perfect for running a pedal if i can get the kinks out of it. perhaps it has just been because we were ordering one off's i mean............ oh yeah. the hammond works liek it is supposed to now. but before it was over voltaged. on ten units

[ Sat 11:59:42 ]  lovekraft:  No, it's only rated for 220v the other way, so it probably won't put out more than 200v or so.

[ Sat 12:00:12 ]  ansil:  ok yeah sorry got my numbers wrong. lol

[ Sat 12:00:25 ]  ansil:  but i found a few alternatives to the torordial anyway.

[ Sat 12:00:42 ]  lovekraft:  I need you to frqaw me up shcematics - I'm not smart enough to troublesdhoot on the fly - you know that!

[ Sat 12:01:06 ]  ansil:  so far from mouser i have had two bad hammond transformers. lol.. sorry yeah. i have the new scheme for you . its nice.

[ Sat 12:01:24 ]  ansil:  two hammond boxes. i didnt' get the caps from antique radio supplies

[ Sat 12:01:45 ]  lovekraft:  So long as I can read it without a magnifier and a bottle of oxycontin, i'm good.

[ Sat 12:02:35 ]  ansil:  i found that i can use the little octavia transformer to supply a preamp tube with. with a doubler that is. but shoot even if i use two of them haaaaaa oxy's lol

[ Sat 12:02:56 ]  lovekraft:  If you'll outline exactly what you need, i'll try to draw something up for ya. No charge!!

[ Sat 12:03:01 ]  ansil:  i can get as much or more than the tororidial in a smaller space.

[ Sat 12:03:36 ]  ansil:  ok well its pretty easy. i am trying to make my mini amp smaller for one thing. to make it easier on me. and i am trying to make a in pedal preamp for my tube fuzz.

[ Sat 12:03:51 ]  ansil:  the beasts sound so good right now man.

[ Sat 12:04:24 ]  lovekraft:  Digi-Key has some toroidals that might work better for you, btut they ain't as user-friendly, design-wise.

[ Sat 12:05:14 ]  ansil:  but the trick i found for me was. to get as close to the values listed in the nj7 spec sheet for the tubes. i got this amazing freaking tone. not too dirty but plenty of gain.. too. if i could have a 300v say 23ma or so powersupply i think i would be in seventh heaven

[ Sat 12:05:22 ]  ansil:  yeah i saw the link peter posted.

[ Sat 12:05:33 ]  lovekraft:  Your mini-amp is small enough 0-if yopu keep shrinking it, you're gonna run into heat and crosstalk problems.

[ Sat 12:05:54 ]  ansil:  i downloaded them. but right now man i can't pay 18usd for them when the mouser transformers are like 1-1.50 each. in lots less than 10

[ Sat 12:06:26 ]  ansil:  nope i don't want to shrink the amp. just the power supply. i want to have one plug on the back for speaker one for boost and one for power

[ Sat 12:06:29 ]  lovekraft:  300V@23mA - no problem, but not in a hammond box! It'd be a fire hazard!

[ Sat 12:06:51 ]  ansil:  its actually quite large man. 8"*4"*1" tall all steel chasis

[ Sat 12:07:39 ]  ansil:  i dont' like my powersupply to sag so lets say optimum i want to run 1 12ax7 and one 12bh7

[ Sat 12:07:49 ]  lovekraft:  So, do you need 300VDC@23mA and filament votage>?

[ Sat 12:08:00 ]  ansil:  see right now it goes like this. oh yeah filament too. lol

[ Sat 12:09:08 ]  lovekraft:  a12AX7 and a12BH7 is only about 10mA, maxed, isn't it -the 12AX7 isn't but about 3 mA by itself, right?

[ Sat 12:09:24 ]  ansil:  right now i use a 400+ma 12 transformer for filament and the hammond one. both rect full wave inside a box that holds them securely in place.. i also looped the ground wires trhought the frame of the transformer to help hold it in and give secure grounding. all of this is in a box with a modular plug on it.

[ Sat 12:09:54 ]  ansil:  uh the spec sheet i got on the bh7 is over 15ma yes 12ax7 3ma

[ Sat 12:10:37 ]  lovekraft:  Yeah you'll need about 350mA of filamnet for those two tubes.

[ Sat 12:11:30 ]  ansil:  but also i was thinkig for the future of using a pentode/triode like before. as it sounds really good which i will need atccording to http://www.nj7p.org/Tube1.php?tube=6dx8 22ma

[ Sat 12:12:52 ]  ansil:  basically tell ya what . this is what i am trying to acomplish.. A louder version of my amp using a 9 pin tube with whatever current/votlage it takes to get it

[ Sat 12:13:19 ]  ansil:  can you recomend any specific tube. or should i just say fuck it and go with the straight up champ set up. lol

[ Sat 12:13:46 ]  ansil:  i mean right now my amp is a tricked out champ From Hell

[ Sat 12:13:51 ]  lovekraft:  Soi that's apossible 30mA - the6DX8 might pull 20mA, right?

[ Sat 12:14:19 ]  ansil:  i hate that 6np81 whaatever tube i emailed you about. it is so dirty it is not pretty.

[ Sat 12:14:49 ]  ansil:  18ma 330v or so according to the sheet. but that includes one 12at7 type including the pentode too.

[ Sat 12:15:13 ]  lovekraft:  Why don't you just reconfigure your output to cathode bias self split, like the Firefly?

[ Sat 12:15:52 ]  ansil:  yeah i did that. or should i say bruce bennet did that

[ Sat 12:15:57 ]  lovekraft:  That setup with a 12BH7 will drive a 4-12 marshall cab, ferchissakes!

[ Sat 12:16:32 ]  ansil:  my amp now will drive two cabinets better than a single 12" but i was just trying to squeeze every last freakin dime out of it.

[ Sat 12:16:52 ]  lovekraft:  I anc't think -send me schemos, and we'll try to figure something otu>

[ Sat 12:17:06 ]  ansil:  i have one of BB amps that i looked at .. and other than a glorified eq in it he ripped off Dough big time.

[ Sat 12:17:51 ]  ansil:  ok no problem. but yeah last thing i was thinking of i took both amps to the same shop smae guitar. and his had so much more dist than mine. but mine was so much louder we hooked up a decibel meter and i mean you could just feel it.

[ Sat 12:18:01 ]  ansil:  yeah question

[ Sat 12:18:07 ]  ansil:  you have dougs amp scheme right.

[ Sat 12:18:07 ]  lovekraft:  yeah I'm gonna figure out how to shoehorn a tweed style PI into the FF and runit real push pull!

[ Sat 12:19:06 ]  ansil:  let me ask you somehing.. you know the 330 to ground before the power section.

[ Sat 12:19:26 ]  lovekraft:  I don't see any real solution that dosn't involve adding a bottle to it -but i'm not at my best, either.

[ Sat 12:19:46 ]  lovekraft:  I'm sorry -go ahead.

[ Sat 12:20:17 ]  ansil:  does it make sense to remove the 330k to round and just add a 1.5k blocking resistor.

[ Sat 12:20:40 ]  ansil:  no ground reference before the power section so i guess what just max gain all out.

[ Sat 12:21:28 ]  ansil:  quite literly if you remove the 330k before the power section and add a series 1.5k from plate cap to grid you have BB amp.

[ Sat 12:21:47 ]  lovekraft:  It'll hit the power tube a lot harder -you may have to up the grid stopper to keep it out of blocking distortion, and the clean may disappear>

[ Sat 12:22:08 ]  ansil:  yeah this amp has no clean

[ Sat 12:22:31 ]  lovekraft:  Maybe a 5.6K or so instead of 1.5K?

[ Sat 12:23:25 ]  ansil:  and its really quite simply just a shitty amp cause it breaks up so badly. theres no note clarity. its a little better with the 12au7 in it but that 6n1p sucks. yeah i was just hinking of using doug's style. but really i am geting a slamming sound out of mine now. i guess i am just chasing the dragon lol.. wait not opium

[ Sat 12:23:42 ]  lovekraft:  Especially if you go for the pentode output, you probably need more than 1.5K

[ Sat 12:24:26 ]  ansil:  my amp is nice so i guess i just need to design a ciruct board and put that thing to rest.. actually i didnt' use any thing more than a 820 ohm i basically went

[ Sat 12:25:27 ]  lovekraft:  Are you gonna use a cpb or a tagboard? Tag boards is suoper easy, and you can make 'em at home, for little or nutyhin'!

[ Sat 12:25:48 ]  ansil:  stock marshall values. stock marshall value's 220k220kground 100k and then 5.6k on cathode. and then a 470k to ground. with a 820 ohm blocking. and man it sounded so good

[ Sat 12:26:18 ]  lovekraft:  So tagboard it, and let it rock!

[ Sat 12:26:29 ]  ansil:  yeah but my business partner doesnt' want the rivets coming trhought the bodys unless we get them precision lined up.. oh Gawd i hate driling lol

[ Sat 12:27:08 ]  ansil:  Burned up my unibit brand damn new one i told him to take it slow and to let the thing cool down man thats not light steel man.

[ Sat 12:28:05 ]  ansil:  got a guy who bought one and said the lead pot was going out. and he wanted to knw if we could send him a schematic. i was like what lead pot??? he hasn't emailed back. i think he is just trying to take it apart. if he drilled the rivets he is out of a warranty

[ Sat 12:28:55 ]  lovekraft:  Packaging is the trick - use templates, and mount the board by the corners.

[ Sat 12:29:36 ]  ansil:  oh yeah i am instaling trap doors on my pedals for the batt box and fuck screws i poprivet them through the rubber feet.. same with the amps. they are shut up. if i have to drill it so be it but thats my business lol. my amps wil be so much better. i designed the amp but i dont 'have much say in its design sad isnt' it.. yep i know but say what would you charge m to do a set of drilling templates man. i suck at it.

[ Sat 12:30:23 ]  lovekraft:  My busddy Sam is using stainless for his hand built chassis - tlak about a learning curve!

[ Sat 12:30:44 ]  ansil:  i mean i am quite series. see most of my stuff is mounted one way. but i have say 5 pedals and 2 out of 5 mount differnet but they say penguin swine and pic and cow all side ways.. same drilling temp.. and frank and jungle kats are long ways.

[ Sat 12:30:51 ]  lovekraft:  No charge - but I'd have to have a chassis and a board to do it from.

[ Sat 12:30:54 ]  ansil:  oh wow man yeah..

[ Sat 12:31:12 ]  ansil:  thats not a problem.. well

[ Sat 12:31:47 ]  ansil:   idont 'have board yet for them. still got to do that. for the amps that is.. the pedals are all done for the most part. lol..

[ Sat 12:32:04 ]  lovekraft:  Listen, i hate to leave good company but I'm listing about 30 degrees to starboard - I gotta get some sleep!

[ Sat 12:32:19 ]  ansil:  see i want to go back to the haammond bb box and put it all in the box. or doit like we are now but in the bb box. man.

[ Sat 12:32:37 ]  ansil:  no problem man good chatting with ya. can you save what e talked about. email it..

[ Sat 12:32:52 ]  ansil:  ahh dont' worry buddy thanks for keeping me company.

[ Sat 12:33:05 ]  lovekraft:  Email me with whatever you've got together when you get a chance - I'll emasil you this transcript.

[ Sat 12:33:15 ]  ansil:  ok man ciao